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Florence.P611
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Envoyé le: jeudi 12 novembre 2009 18:52


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hello,

I information retrieval on the Family of CAMELINAT Rémy Zéphirin born in France en1874 in Mailly.
I seek the descents (newborns in ENGLAND) it married Emma ASTON
I know that it had children (Zélie - Berthe -) but for the others I am not sûrde their names.
I know that there is in the family anglaisune Hermine which had a Babsy girl but I do not know any more.
My beautiful mother is the back back little girl of Zéphirin CAMELINAT. His/her large mother was the girl of Zéphirin and Zoe GARANCHE.
If somebody with information, thank you to transmit them to me
Cordially
Florence P
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: mardi 17 novembre 2009 08:56


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Hello Florence,

Here are the references for the marriage between Emma ASTON and Zéphirin CAMELINAT:

Name: Zephirin Camélinat / Emma Aston
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 246

To order the marriage certificate, follow the instructions in the thread by Jeanne.P6 : http://www.genealogie.com/v4/forums/recherches-genealogiques-angleterre-/-irlande-voici-comment-faire-pour-commander-un-certificat-de-naissance-mariage-ou-deces-au-gro-t1171605.html
A certificate costs £7 from England; you can pay by credit or debit card.

There is a marriage for a Eugene Camélinat in 1889 and one for a Jeanne Camélinat in 1899 in the same region.

Best wishes,
Elaine
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: mardi 17 novembre 2009 09:09


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The 1881 Census shows the Camélinat family living in Birmingham at 189 Dudley Road:

Zephirin Camelinat - Head - Mar - 40 - Siversmith (fine art) - France
Emma Camelinat - Wife - Mar - 31 - Fruiterer - France
Jeanne Camelinat - Daughter - 15 - France
Eugene Camelinat - Son - 12 - Scholar - France
Zilie Camelinat - Daughter - 5 - Scholar - Birmingham, Warwickshire
Berthe Camelinat - Daughter - 3 - Birmingham, Warwickshire

First name - surname - relation to head of family - married status - age - occupation - place of birth


Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: mardi 17 novembre 2009 09:17


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Here are the birth references for Zélie and Berthe:

Name: Zelie Hermine Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 245

Name: Berthe Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 225
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: mardi 17 novembre 2009 09:51


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In 1891, there are some Camélinats living in Dudley road in Birmingham. At n° 371, there is a family called Phillips; the wife is called Hermine and was born in Paris so she might have been a Camélinat; their servant is Jeanne Camélinat aged 25 born in Paris (perhaps the daughter of Zéphirin).

At n° 375, Eugène is living with his wife and daughter:

Eugene G Camélinat ? Head ? Mar ? 22 ? Metal Spinner ? Paris, France
Alice E Camélinat ? Wife ? Mar ? 24 ? Greengrocer ? Birmingham, Warwickshire
Hermine M Camélinat ? Daur ? 8/12 - Birmingham, Warwickshire
Elizabeth Ashmore ? Sister-in-Law ? 13 ? Domestic Servant - Birmingham, Warwickshire

The marriage reference for Eugène is:

Name: Eugene Camelinat / Alice Emma Ashmore
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 334

and the birth reference for their daughter is:

Name: Hermine Mebella Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 180
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 16:44


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In 1901, Eugène and his family had moved to Handsworth in Staffordshire and were living at 31 Murdock Road:

Eugene G Camelinat - Head - M - 32 - Art metal worker - Paris, France
Alice E Camelinat - Wife - M - 34 - B'ham, Warwickshire
Hermine E Camelinat - Daughter - S -10 - B'ham, Warwickshire
Zephire E Camelinat - Son - S - 7 - B'ham, Warwickshire
Emile A G Camelinat - Son - S - 5 - B'ham, Warwickshire
Norman L Camelinat - Son - S - 2 - B'ham, Warwickshire
Francis B Camelinat - Son - S - 11 months - B'ham, Warwickshire

If you would like a copy of the censuses where the family is shown, let me have you email address.
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 16:49


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The birth references for Eugène's new children are:

Name: Zephiren Eugene Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 156

Name: Emile Alan G Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 157

Name: Norman Liowe Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 827

Name: Francis Baden Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 853

Two more sons were born to them later:

Name: Noel Alfonso Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 872

Name: Eugene Augustus Camelinat
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 836

In 1911, the family were still living in Staffordshire:

Eugene (42); Alice (45); Hermine (20); Zéphiren (17); Emile (15); Norman (12); Francis (10); Alphonso (6) and Augustus (4).


Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 17:08


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Jeanne Camélinat, the servant who was living at 371 Dudley Road in Birmingham in 1891, married in 1899:

Name: Jeanne Camelinat / Sydney Tupman
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 386

on the 1901 Census, the family is living in Birmingham, at 492 Dudley Road.

Sidney Tupman - Head - M - 35 - Carpenter - Birmingham
Jeanne Tupman - Wife - M - 35 - Paris, France
Sidney Tupman - Son - S - 16 - Optician - Birmingham
Alice Tupman - Dau - S - 14 - Birmingham
Frederick Tupman - Son - S - 12 - Birmingham
Annie Tupman - Dau - S - 10 - Birmingham
Ethel G Tupman - Dau - S - 6 - Birmingham
Eugene Tupman - Son - S - 5 months - Birmingham

Sarah Ann Tupman, Sidney's first wife, died in the second quarter of 1898, aged about 38. Eugène was the first child of Jeanne and Sidney.

Name: Eugene Tupman
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 37


Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 17:24


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This is the marriage of Hermine Mabella Camélinat in 1924:

Name: Hermine M Camelinat / William J A Matthews
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1924
Registration district: Meriden
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1157

They do not appear to have had any children.
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 17:34


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This is the marriage of Zéphirin Eugène Camélinat in 1922:

Name: Zepharin E Camelinat / Ellen Round
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922
Registration district: Meriden
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1281

This will be their daughter:

Name: Hermine E Camelinet
Mother's Maiden Surname: Round
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1924
Registration district: King's L
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 263
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 17:39


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This is the marriage of Norman Camélinat in 1923:

Name: Norman Camelinat / Mabel G Taylor
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Aston
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1078

They do not appear to have had any children.
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 18:09


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This is the marriage of Noel Alfonso in 1932:

Name: Noel A Camelinat / Edna G Jones
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration district: Meriden
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1542

They do not appear to have had any children.
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 18:18


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This is the marriage of Francis Baden in 1934:

Name: Francis B Camelinat / Dora Holland
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 506

Again, there don't seem to be any children.
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 18:28


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This is the marriage of Eugène in 1937:

Name: Eugene A Camelinat / Dorothy L Stephens
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1363

This is their son:

Name: John E Camelinat
Mother's Maiden Surname: Stephens
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1938
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 539

Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: vendredi 20 novembre 2009 19:00


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Jeanne Tupman née Camelinat had more children with Sidney Tupman. on the 1911 Census, they have Eugène, Arthur, Jeanne and Norman.

Name: Arthur Cecil Tupman
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 27

Name: Norman Camelinat Tupman
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 23

Name: Jeanne Renee Tupman
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 15


Florence.P611
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Envoyé le: samedi 21 novembre 2009 22:13


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Hello,
Thank you very much the information concerning the Zéphirin CAMELINAT family.
on the other hand I notice that I do not find the Girl of Ermine Camélinat who was called Babsy she(it) made of the théatre. I think that Ermine had to live in Grelande her husband died young because Babsy did not still walk(work) but on the other hand I have a name nor date of birth.
Can be can renseiggner you to me.
Thank you still Florence
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: lundi 23 novembre 2009 20:39


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Hello Florence

I have looked for the marriage of Hermine E. Camélinat and found that she married twice. However, it is recent enough for her still to be alive so I do not want to put the details on the forum. Also, as there are so many women in the family called Hermine, I am not sure which one you think had a daughter called Babsy (probably a nickname).

Would you like to write to me at so that we can sort this out?

Elaine
Florence.P611
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Envoyé le: mardi 24 novembre 2009 19:17


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Hello Elaine
Familly CAMELINA1T Hermine

I received your message but I do not manage to connect on vote email.
I give you my email

florence.parillaud@neuf.fr

Cordially
.45421
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Envoyé le: vendredi 22 août 2014 22:22


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Bonsoir

I am so sorry for a late reply (la reponde tardieu) mais je vois aujordhi votre poste.
Ma fille et moi voudrais chercher un Camelinat homme qui arrive en Birmingham, Angleterre dans 1870's (?) et who marries (sorry!) une femme d'Anglais Emma ou Emily Aston.
Connez-vous l'histoire par chance?

Merci beaucoup pour votre temps et patience avec ma francais mauvais!

Susie (Cleverly)
Elaine.B6
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Envoyé le: dimanche 14 septembre 2014 06:43


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Hello Susie,

If you look at my first two posts on this thread of Florence's, I think you will find the information that you are looking for.

I'm sorry also that I have taken so long to reply but I don't come on the forum very frequently.

I hope that this is what you were looking for.

Best wishes,
Elaine
Gategarden
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Envoyé le: vendredi 30 janvier 2015 22:03


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My father worked for Zephyrin Camelinat in the 1950s. By all means write I'd I can be of assistance.

Mart Gottschalk
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Gategarden
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Envoyé le: vendredi 30 janvier 2015 22:03


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HOTMAIL!
Gategarden
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Envoyé le: vendredi 30 janvier 2015 22:04


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My father worked for Zephyrin Camelinat in the 1950s. By all means write I'd I can be of assistance.

Mart Gottschalk
gategarden@hitmail.com
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