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Inscrit le: 22/01/2009 Messages: 8
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hello,
I information retrieval on the Family of CAMELINAT Rémy Zéphirin born in France en1874 in Mailly. I seek the descents (newborns in ENGLAND) it married Emma ASTON I know that it had children (Zélie - Berthe -) but for the others I am not sûrde their names. I know that there is in the family anglaisune Hermine which had a Babsy girl but I do not know any more. My beautiful mother is the back back little girl of Zéphirin CAMELINAT. His/her large mother was the girl of Zéphirin and Zoe GARANCHE. If somebody with information, thank you to transmit them to me Cordially Florence P
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Inscrit le: 27/09/2008 Messages: 274
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Hello Florence,
Here are the references for the marriage between Emma ASTON and Zéphirin CAMELINAT:
Name: Zephirin Camélinat / Emma Aston Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 246
To order the marriage certificate, follow the instructions in the thread by Jeanne.P6 : http://www.genealogie.com/v4/forums/recherches-genealogiques-angleterre-/-irlande-voici-comment-faire-pour-commander-un-certificat-de-naissance-mariage-ou-deces-au-gro-t1171605.html A certificate costs £7 from England; you can pay by credit or debit card.
There is a marriage for a Eugene Camélinat in 1889 and one for a Jeanne Camélinat in 1899 in the same region.
Best wishes, Elaine
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The 1881 Census shows the Camélinat family living in Birmingham at 189 Dudley Road:
Zephirin Camelinat - Head - Mar - 40 - Siversmith (fine art) - France Emma Camelinat - Wife - Mar - 31 - Fruiterer - France Jeanne Camelinat - Daughter - 15 - France Eugene Camelinat - Son - 12 - Scholar - France Zilie Camelinat - Daughter - 5 - Scholar - Birmingham, Warwickshire Berthe Camelinat - Daughter - 3 - Birmingham, Warwickshire
First name - surname - relation to head of family - married status - age - occupation - place of birth
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Here are the birth references for Zélie and Berthe:
Name: Zelie Hermine Camelinat Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 245
Name: Berthe Camelinat Year of Registration: 1878 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 225
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In 1891, there are some Camélinats living in Dudley road in Birmingham. At n° 371, there is a family called Phillips; the wife is called Hermine and was born in Paris so she might have been a Camélinat; their servant is Jeanne Camélinat aged 25 born in Paris (perhaps the daughter of Zéphirin).
At n° 375, Eugène is living with his wife and daughter:
Eugene G Camélinat ? Head ? Mar ? 22 ? Metal Spinner ? Paris, France Alice E Camélinat ? Wife ? Mar ? 24 ? Greengrocer ? Birmingham, Warwickshire Hermine M Camélinat ? Daur ? 8/12 - Birmingham, Warwickshire Elizabeth Ashmore ? Sister-in-Law ? 13 ? Domestic Servant - Birmingham, Warwickshire
The marriage reference for Eugène is:
Name: Eugene Camelinat / Alice Emma Ashmore Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 334
and the birth reference for their daughter is:
Name: Hermine Mebella Camelinat Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 180
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In 1901, Eugène and his family had moved to Handsworth in Staffordshire and were living at 31 Murdock Road:
Eugene G Camelinat - Head - M - 32 - Art metal worker - Paris, France Alice E Camelinat - Wife - M - 34 - B'ham, Warwickshire Hermine E Camelinat - Daughter - S -10 - B'ham, Warwickshire Zephire E Camelinat - Son - S - 7 - B'ham, Warwickshire Emile A G Camelinat - Son - S - 5 - B'ham, Warwickshire Norman L Camelinat - Son - S - 2 - B'ham, Warwickshire Francis B Camelinat - Son - S - 11 months - B'ham, Warwickshire
If you would like a copy of the censuses where the family is shown, let me have you email address.
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The birth references for Eugène's new children are:
Name: Zephiren Eugene Camelinat Year of Registration: 1894 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 156
Name: Emile Alan G Camelinat Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 157
Name: Norman Liowe Camelinat Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 827
Name: Francis Baden Camelinat Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 853
Two more sons were born to them later:
Name: Noel Alfonso Camelinat Year of Registration: 1905 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 872
Name: Eugene Augustus Camelinat Year of Registration: 1907 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 836
In 1911, the family were still living in Staffordshire:
Eugene (42); Alice (45); Hermine (20); Zéphiren (17); Emile (15); Norman (12); Francis (10); Alphonso (6) and Augustus (4).
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Jeanne Camélinat, the servant who was living at 371 Dudley Road in Birmingham in 1891, married in 1899:
Name: Jeanne Camelinat / Sydney Tupman Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 386
on the 1901 Census, the family is living in Birmingham, at 492 Dudley Road.
Sidney Tupman - Head - M - 35 - Carpenter - Birmingham Jeanne Tupman - Wife - M - 35 - Paris, France Sidney Tupman - Son - S - 16 - Optician - Birmingham Alice Tupman - Dau - S - 14 - Birmingham Frederick Tupman - Son - S - 12 - Birmingham Annie Tupman - Dau - S - 10 - Birmingham Ethel G Tupman - Dau - S - 6 - Birmingham Eugene Tupman - Son - S - 5 months - Birmingham
Sarah Ann Tupman, Sidney's first wife, died in the second quarter of 1898, aged about 38. Eugène was the first child of Jeanne and Sidney.
Name: Eugene Tupman Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 37
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This is the marriage of Hermine Mabella Camélinat in 1924:
Name: Hermine M Camelinat / William J A Matthews Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1924 Registration district: Meriden Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 1157
They do not appear to have had any children.
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This is the marriage of Zéphirin Eugène Camélinat in 1922:
Name: Zepharin E Camelinat / Ellen Round Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922 Registration district: Meriden Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 1281
This will be their daughter:
Name: Hermine E Camelinet Mother's Maiden Surname: Round Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1924 Registration district: King's L Registration county: Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 263
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This is the marriage of Norman Camélinat in 1923:
Name: Norman Camelinat / Mabel G Taylor Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923 Registration district: Aston Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 1078
They do not appear to have had any children.
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This is the marriage of Noel Alfonso in 1932:
Name: Noel A Camelinat / Edna G Jones Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932 Registration district: Meriden Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 1542
They do not appear to have had any children.
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This is the marriage of Francis Baden in 1934:
Name: Francis B Camelinat / Dora Holland Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1934 Registration district: Birmingham Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 506
Again, there don't seem to be any children.
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This is the marriage of Eugène in 1937:
Name: Eugene A Camelinat / Dorothy L Stephens Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937 Registration district: Birmingham Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 1363
This is their son:
Name: John E Camelinat Mother's Maiden Surname: Stephens Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1938 Registration district: Birmingham Registration county: Warwickshire Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 539
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Jeanne Tupman née Camelinat had more children with Sidney Tupman. on the 1911 Census, they have Eugène, Arthur, Jeanne and Norman.
Name: Arthur Cecil Tupman Year of Registration: 1901 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 27
Name: Norman Camelinat Tupman Year of Registration: 1904 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 23
Name: Jeanne Renee Tupman Year of Registration: 1905 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 15
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Inscrit le: 22/01/2009 Messages: 8
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Hello, Thank you very much the information concerning the Zéphirin CAMELINAT family. on the other hand I notice that I do not find the Girl of Ermine Camélinat who was called Babsy she(it) made of the théatre. I think that Ermine had to live in Grelande her husband died young because Babsy did not still walk(work) but on the other hand I have a name nor date of birth. Can be can renseiggner you to me. Thank you still Florence
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Hello Florence
I have looked for the marriage of Hermine E. Camélinat and found that she married twice. However, it is recent enough for her still to be alive so I do not want to put the details on the forum. Also, as there are so many women in the family called Hermine, I am not sure which one you think had a daughter called Babsy (probably a nickname).
Would you like to write to me at so that we can sort this out?
Elaine
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Inscrit le: 22/01/2009 Messages: 8
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Hello Elaine Familly CAMELINA1T Hermine
I received your message but I do not manage to connect on vote email. I give you my email
florence.parillaud@neuf.fr
Cordially
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Inscrit le: 22/08/2014 Messages: 1
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Bonsoir
I am so sorry for a late reply (la reponde tardieu) mais je vois aujordhi votre poste. Ma fille et moi voudrais chercher un Camelinat homme qui arrive en Birmingham, Angleterre dans 1870's (?) et who marries (sorry!) une femme d'Anglais Emma ou Emily Aston. Connez-vous l'histoire par chance?
Merci beaucoup pour votre temps et patience avec ma francais mauvais!
Susie (Cleverly)
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Inscrit le: 27/09/2008 Messages: 274
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Hello Susie,
If you look at my first two posts on this thread of Florence's, I think you will find the information that you are looking for.
I'm sorry also that I have taken so long to reply but I don't come on the forum very frequently.
I hope that this is what you were looking for.
Best wishes, Elaine
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Inscrit le: 30/01/2015 Messages: 3
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My father worked for Zephyrin Camelinat in the 1950s. By all means write I'd I can be of assistance.
Mart Gottschalk gategarden@hitmail.com
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Inscrit le: 30/01/2015 Messages: 3
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HOTMAIL!
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Inscrit le: 30/01/2015 Messages: 3
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My father worked for Zephyrin Camelinat in the 1950s. By all means write I'd I can be of assistance.
Mart Gottschalk gategarden@hitmail.com
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